- Thu, 15:20: RT @MikeLLunsford: Patreon, this decision is bad for supporters, I don't care how you think this will help creators. If we don't make this…
- Thu, 15:23: RT @Graham_LRR: I don’t know what creators @Patreon supposedly asked about this change, because we’re a high-revenue creator and they sure…
- Thu, 15:24: RT @Sibanamush: @Graham_LRR @Patreon Started a poll about this on Patreon's announcement thread, currently 0% in favour of the new system 1…
- Thu, 15:25: RT @Sibanamush: @Patreon I as a Creator and / or Patron using the Patreon Service, Prefer:
- Thu, 15:25: RT @mikeyface: @Graham_LRR @Patreon it’s harming me right now.
- Thu, 15:26: RT @Ste_Harris: @Graham_LRR @Patreon Even setting aside the fact that having the users navigate these fees instead of creators is bad for c…
- Thu, 15:28: RT @MtGPuzzleQuest: Happy 2-Year Anniversary #MagicPuzzleQuest! Visit our FAQ to check out the festivities! https://t.co/T2cm6mAHi2 https:/…
- Thu, 15:28: RT @Diamond_Tiki: I can easily tell how upset I am by something by the word count of the message I write. The feedback I sent @Patreon - 5…
- Thu, 15:28: RT @SlyTQ: THIS. This is what's gonna hurt us that run off smaller pledges so badly. This hurts the people who wants to support us all 💚 I…
- Thu, 15:29: RT @trickycrayon: $20 to one creator = $20.93 $20 to multiple creators at $1 each = $27.50 @Patreon, you are disincentivizing patrons from…
- Thu, 15:29: RT @GibsonTwist: @Patreon This is not to mention the extra that will be charged to Patrons supporting many artists, getting dinged 35+ cent…
- Thu, 15:29: RT @0xabad1dea: Every person with a patreon: please pledge even just $1 it really helps!! @Patreon: we have decided to make it economicall…
- Thu, 15:30: RT @eilatan: In which I pick apart the new Patreon fee structure with actual math. TL;DR: Patreon's making a lot more money for their inv…
- Thu, 15:30: RT @johnabates: @Graham_LRR @Patreon We're a low-revenue creator and they didn't ask us either. Is there some strange goldilocks creator t…
- Thu, 15:30: RT @wilw: Me, two minutes ago: I'm gonna make two eggs over medium. Me, thirty seconds ago: Okay, then! Scrambled eggs it is!
- Thu, 15:31: RT @danthat: "Hey," say @Twitter and @Patreon. "We're doing pretty well. Shall we deliberately fuck up our products for some reason?" "Good…
- Thu, 15:31: RT @qikipedia: For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H. L. MENCKEN
- Thu, 15:31: RT @sharkfists: Last night's weird post-DB dream included driving an actual bus and @katestark hiding fake Kar-98ks somewhere as a gag
- Thu, 15:31: RT @katestark: Hey @Patreon! Thanks for changing your payout model to something people aren’t comfortable with or even asked for. I’m los…
- Thu, 15:32: RT @electrotamitha: @katestark @LBD_Nytetrayn @TychoBrahe @Patreon Love this from their official QA regarding the new fee structure. https:…
- Thu, 15:32: RT @JubalBarca: @katestark @thedicegoddess @Patreon I wrote up a post on things people can do - if it's useful, or if you cuys have an impr…
- Thu, 15:32: RT @RosewattaStone: Werebear #GoogleTranslatesMTG https://t.co/OyOpvM4oII
- Thu, 15:33: RT @RoboRosewater: Burning of Mating https://t.co/NFFDCvUX7k
- Thu, 15:33: RT @James_LRR: I have such a hard time grasping how, a company such as @Patreon can be so, SO BAD, at communicating with their users. Hone…
- Thu, 15:33: RT @instant_grat: Patreon is devilishly clever. As a supporter, the only way to display dissatisfaction with this move in a way Patreon wil…
- Thu, 15:34: RT @warandpeace: Solid thread on Patreon's fee increase https://t.co/XzvQPpCrc5
- Thu, 15:34: RT @DesertGIF: (Alright, we are back to normal! The bot is now back on an every-four-hours schedule with gifs from DB5 onwards to present i…
- Thu, 15:34: RT @Diamond_Tiki: That's a $2.42 pledge before the new fees. If your current pledge is below $2.42 and you don't cancel or change it, Patre…
- Thu, 20:07: RT @LunarJade: YouTube: “we automatically put your videos as not advertiser friendly so you have to waste time getting it manually reviewed…
- Thu, 20:07: RT @ihorner: And I'm not suggesting we need a "Better Patreon". I think we need NO Patreon, and have creatives interact directly with their…
- Thu, 20:10: RT @zandravandra: Hey @Patreon, quick question: I’m a creator and I support multiple folks, which means I pay them out of my Patreon income…
- Thu, 20:10: RT @zandravandra: Someone from @Patreon answered: they're basically not going to let us use our Patreon income for our pledges anymore, ens…
- Thu, 20:12: RT @mikelang3000: @Sythenz @alinsa @zandravandra @Patreon If they were phrasing this as "their cut", not as "service fees", it would go a l…
- Thu, 20:12: RT @UnarmedOracle: TFW they get shown the door https://t.co/MNFjIkNgJR
- Thu, 20:13: RT @cubewatermelon: This whole patreon thing is really vexing since patreon is legitimately half of my income. But if I need to switch to D…
- Thu, 20:13: RT @cubewatermelon: @AugustSketches Basically they're removing the transaction fees on the creators' ends, while charging much higher per-p…
- Thu, 20:14: RT @PrinnyCanBeHero: @cubewatermelon @Patreon Also the other dumb thing? @patreon says the charge will be "per pledge". But I know they cha…
- Thu, 20:15: RT @RvLeshrac: @pvponline There are plenty of Patrons who can only afford a few bucks a month, and chose to divide it up among various crea…
- Thu, 20:15: RT @_Elantris_: Magic is such a huge part of my life that it's hard for me to enjoy when someone gets a lifetime ban, regardless of how shi…
- Thu, 20:15: RT @Zakman86: @_Elantris_ If anything, hopefully it will remind people that playing Magic is a privilege, not a right.
- Thu, 20:18: RT @ConnorSouthard: Patreon could have raked in millions a year essentially forever. Their founders and investors would have made tons of m…
- Thu, 20:19: RT @ConnorSouthard: @boshj Yeah like, when no one really considers using a competitor, why would you give them a reason? It's incredible to…
- Thu, 20:19: RT @ConnorSouthard: @jackconte Hey Jack, I'll admit I don't know the whole story! I would however urge you to look at the concerns being sh…
- Thu, 20:32: RT @MikeLLunsford: I'm going to set up other ways to support me other than Patreon when I have time. right now I really need to try and foc…
- Thu, 20:33: RT @SilverVVulpes: so what you are saying is, Century Fox is now Disney which means the Alien franchise is now Disney which means Xenomor…
- Thu, 20:33: RT @elgoonishshive: Yeah, mysteriously, it's difficult to concentrate when your most significant source of income is under threat from itse…
- Thu, 20:34: RT @cwbuecheler: Here's what I think is happening with @Patreon - this year they raised $60m in Series C venture funds at a valuation of $4…
- Thu, 20:38: RT @kav2k: @jackconte @cwbuecheler @Patreon De-aggregating pledges further harms patrons. Some of us pay per-transaction fees for, say, cur…
- Thu, 20:38: RT @LiaraRoux: @jackconte @cwbuecheler @Patreon You should have explained that this was about de-aggregation from the start instead of fram…
- Thu, 20:39: RT @evoinvitro: @jackconte @cwbuecheler @Patreon instead of this anniversary thing and unbundling from first of the month, wouldnt it be be…
- Thu, 20:40: RT @lpgeffen: @jackconte @cwbuecheler @Patreon I’ve been a patron for some years now. The new fee structure does make sense for creators bu…
- Thu, 20:40: RT @grumpfgrr: @jackconte @cwbuecheler @Patreon This post says nothing about aggregation. What are your reasons for de-aggregation? I can s…
- Thu, 20:43: RT @Featherweight_: OK, not dropping @Patreon just yet but OH BOY and I gonna start setting up some redundancies now. My trust and good wil…
- Thu, 20:44: RT @azninsect: My mistake. This sounds like a shift to on demand pledges. Thus the fees...that Patreon created. So Patreon created these fe…
- Thu, 20:44: RT @tottwriter: @Patreon Wow. So the defence of this system is "We have to overcharge everyone in order to justify a horrifically inept new…
- Thu, 20:44: RT @tottwriter: @Patreon The answer to the problem was categorically never to make the service more inconvenient to the people actually pay…
- Thu, 20:45: RT @MikeLLunsford: @Patreon @PatreonSupport We don't want your excuses, justifications, explanations, or more god damned charts. We want it…
- Thu, 20:45: RT @JAM_WAH: @Patreon Hey. Hey. This was a bad move. Reverse it or you'll face a mass exodus.
- Thu, 20:46: RT @arcticdraws: @Patreon So, this is also going to totally change how we send out rewards. We used to wait until the 5th, and when this ro…
- Thu, 20:46: RT @arcticdraws: @Patreon The thing is, YOU as a company are the ones who rolled out three separate payment options. You touted it as flexi…
- Thu, 20:46: RT @arcticdraws: @Patreon Also, I'm sorry - but you've been working on this new setup for a YEAR? And didn't tell the majority of your cust…
- Thu, 20:47: RT @radven: @Patreon In other words - your latest policy change has me wanting to pull away from Patreon as both a supporter and a creator.…
- Thu, 20:47: RT @antsstyle: @Patreon This... makes no sense. Why would you change payments to be on anniversaries instead of the first of each month, hu…
- Thu, 20:48: RT @Vergiliaux: @Patreon We've been telling you that we don't want any of this. We don't want these service fees. We don't want more inform…
- Thu, 20:49: RT @delcake: @Patreon What I've taken from this post is that de-bundling all pledges to instead be charged on pledge anniversaries instead…
- Thu, 20:49: RT @delcake: @Patreon What I would like to see instead would be charge-up-front pledges delayed to the next available billing cycle unless…
- Thu, 20:50: RT @steve2013: @Patreon More Information isn't what we want. We dont want this both CREATORS & PATRONS are telling you to reverse the decis…
- Thu, 20:50: RT @cykotica: @Patreon @PatreonSupport And, the mass exodus continues because Patreon isn't listening to its creators or patrons. Real smar…
- Thu, 20:50: RT @meijerjt: @Patreon Sigh. So you don't understand your own business, which is keeping costs down by aggregating payments. You've create…
- Thu, 20:50: RT @xizagarx: @Patreon You guys right now: https://t.co/vwT0WNqX7y
- Thu, 20:51: RT @KAPphoto: @Patreon So it sounds like you're saying this is necessary because you're switching to an anniversary based subscription syst…
- Thu, 20:51: RT @KAPphoto: @Patreon Not to mention the chaos an anniversary based system will cause for creators who send out digital or physical reward…
- Thu, 20:51: RT @KAPphoto: @Patreon Do you not understand that one of the main benefits of Patreon is patrons having ONE charge on their credit card eac…
- Thu, 20:51: RT @KAPphoto: @Patreon Why don't you focus on making it absolutely clear to new patrons how the charge up front system works instead of scr…
- Thu, 20:51: RT @TrevorMahlmann: @Patreon The single, best way to eliminate the "double charge" problem with up-front monthly charge is: BE UP FRONT WIT…
- Thu, 20:52: RT @HDoomguy: @Patreon We don't care about the explanation. We know what it is, we don't want it. We can pay the extra fees ourselves, eve…
- Thu, 20:53: RT @JoeOfShadows: @Patreon Payment processing service fees are gathered per transaction. If you want patrons to pay the service fee, collec…
- Thu, 20:53: RT @mmhnto: @Patreon Interesting information, but you haven't addressed the primary concern I've been hearing all day. For small (i.e. $1)…
- Thu, 20:57: RT @Ryanhacun: @Patreon There is actually some relevant data in there. But it fails to address the problem of small pledges now costing alm…
- Thu, 20:57: RT @Twitchmatic: @Patreon This makes me sad as a supporter. When I buy something, financial surcharges are the store’s responsibility and…
- Thu, 20:58: RT @LuDux: @Patreon You're raising fees on the most common $1 pledge by 40%. You're directly reducing the support that artists can receive.…
- Thu, 20:58: RT @BrokenQuest: @Patreon You are not factoring in lower pledges or smaller Patreons. People are removing pledges at a staggering rate and…
- Thu, 20:58: RT @LunasTheShadow: @Patreon Nothing you say will convince us. Keep the system how it is. Do not start charging patrons individually for ea…
- Thu, 20:59: RT @VersariArts: @Patreon Listen like I posted I've been losing folks because of this and my Patreon is helping me be able to create as wel…
- Thu, 21:00: RT @Ryanhacun: @Patreon So basically you reworked your billing in such a way that creates more fees? Then passed on those fees, that you cr…
- Thu, 21:00: RT @eleanrrr: @Patreon Your new subscription model is bad. The last thing I want as a patron is to have due dates based on when I started p…
- Thu, 21:00: RT @1Jcdr: @Patreon Removing fees and moving them to our patreon supporters is only making them drop their pledges because the costs are ge…
- Thu, 21:01: RT @Kidror19: @Patreon NO ONE BUT YOU WANTS THIS CHANGE. IT HAS BEEN MADE EXPLICITLY CLEAR TO YOU THAT THE CREATORS DO NOT WANT TO CHARGE T…
- Thu, 21:02: RT @rabbitseasoning: @Patreon here's a less stupid way of solving your "double charge" problem: prorate the up front charge. i find it hard…
- Thu, 21:02: RT @pip25hu: @Patreon The attempt to explain is appreciated, but you can't solve the problem of high fees by creating even more fees. The p…
- Thu, 21:02: RT @FrostFireSky: @Patreon We don't want more charts and we (creators and patrons alike) DON'T want this payment system.
- Thu, 21:03: RT @ThornwolfArt: I lost $30 in pledges thanks to @Patreon changing their fee structure for "tip jar tier" pledges and higher tiers being f…
- Thu, 21:06: RT @gregthelen: @Patreon Do you have nothing to say to the creators who have lost patrons because of this? How are they going to make up t…
- Thu, 21:08: RT @ValsNoisyToys: @Patreon One of the reasons I (used to) like Patreon is that it has 1 charge/month w/all pledges bundled into that. Now…
- Thu, 21:10: RT @CoeyKuhn: COOL. THANKS @PatreonSupport just LOVE this trend thanks to you. If @patreon thinks these pledges don't mean that much then…
- Thu, 21:10: RT @GoodBadFlicks: Been getting this a bunch today. Please reconsider what you are doing @Patreon this is going to hurt more creators than…
- Thu, 21:11: RT @paranaturalzack: i'm still holding out hope that @Patreon might reverse their new fee policy. in the meantime, https://t.co/8956hFNYxf
- Thu, 21:12: RT @Scarletify: @Patreon "While some patrons may leave in the short-term, we know this will help creators in the long term. " Except many p…
- Thu, 21:24: RT @dantheshive: @Patreon I've gotta say, that "double charge" scenario seems like way less of an actual problem than the solution.
- Thu, 21:29: RT @mikeyface: I have /numerous/ Patrons sending me notes taking a /principled/ stand against @Patreon. We are in a position where the best…
- Thu, 21:33: RT @666bitchcraft: Me: Im a very private person you need to really know me before I actually open up Me to hundreds of strangers online: a…
- Thu, 21:34: RT @Jordan_Morris: I'm sick of these libs telling me I can't say "Happy Honda Days" because I might offend someone who celebrates Toyotatho…
- Thu, 21:34: RT @ana_ng: The big upset from patreon reminds me to share some dry small biz accounting advice: all creators on any platform that takes a…
- Thu, 21:35: RT @JoshLeeKwai: If you haven't already, check out our latest episode of #GameKnights featuring an Unstable draft! Then be sure to tune i…
- Thu, 21:35: RT @ryanqnorth: Hi. @Patreon is changing their fees: they say they're doing it for we creators, but it'll cost you more, and most of it wi…
- Thu, 21:40: RT @the_moviebob: Seconded. @Patreon, put those fees onto ME, not my patrons. Small-dollar patrons are the backbone of success for myself a…
- Thu, 21:40: RT @Nash076: Seriously, @Patreon: Charge *me* for the processing fees, and not my patrons. *I'm* the one bringing in the revenue, not them.
- Thu, 21:41: RT @MyntyFresh: A really well thought out dive into what the @Patreon changes can and do mean. As a small creator, I've already lost patr…
- Thu, 21:42: RT @FoldableHuman: The @Patreon changes are well meaning, but this is a case where I suspect some obfuscation is likely the better system.…
- Thu, 21:42: RT @barrydeutsch: #Patreon #Drip https://t.co/smhI1koJcG
- Thu, 21:45: RT @lepas: If you're unhappy with Patreon's proposed new billing terms, I urge you to leave them some polite and direct feedback https://t.…
- Thu, 21:45: RT @Burrito_Tim: Did the math on my Patreon pledges. Creators will get 4.62% more I'm going to pay 8.67% more The actual fees to pay have…
- Thu, 21:45: RT @Leic1s: why the absolute FUCK did i spend so much time making this https://t.co/Y6QCSDNaT4
- Thu, 21:46: RT @MikeLLunsford: Thanks @Patreon really helping creators out there. I say this with the heaviest of sarcasm. https://t.co/so8S25sJJA
- Thu, 21:46: RT @Featherweight_: @PatreonSupport @cubewatermelon Or did you send out survey asking questions along the lines of "Would you like to pay f…
- Thu, 21:47: RT @Featherweight_: @PatreonSupport @cubewatermelon I would love to see a list of creators you consulted because I have not heard one word…
- Thu, 21:49: RT @SciMuse_: @Featherweight_ @Graham_LRR WE HEARD YOU HATE FEES SO WE TOOK YOUR FEES AND CHOPPED THEM UP INTO LITTLE BITS AND GAVE THEM TO…
- Thu, 21:50: RT @CuriousZelda: Just joined Plenty Of Fish. Not what I expected. https://t.co/h8GEQ1eVAo
